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APPROVED MINUTES
THE CITY OF THE VILLAGE OF DOUGLAS
PLANNING COMMISSION
DOUGLAS CITY HALL
Wednesday, September 10, 2008
1. The meeting was called to order at 7:08 pm by Chairperson
Nern.
2. Roll call: Dave Burdick, Ron Dellartino, Christopher
Nern, Alexa Urquhart, Renee Waddell
Also in attendance: Andrew Mulder, City Attorney, Cunningham and Dalman;
Ryan Kilpatrick, City Planner, Williams and Works
Absent: Karen VanPelt
3. Approval of Minutes
A. Planning Commission Special Meeting Minutes of August
13, 2008
Motion by Waddell, second by Urquhart, to approve the
Minutes as written
Waddell, yes; Urquhart, yes; Burdick, yes; Dellartino, yes; Nern,
yes
Motion carries
B. Planning Commission Closed Session Minutes of August
13, 2008
Motion by Waddell, second by Urquhart, to approve the
Minutes as written
Waddell, yes; Urquhart, yes; Dellartino, yes; Burdick, yes; Nern,
yes
Motion carries
C. Planning Commission Regular meeting Minutes of August,
13, 2008
Urquhart suggested adding “…at Tower Marine” to
the end the first sentence of her comments on page 9, Commissioner
Comments.
Motion by Waddell, second by Urquhart, to approve the
Minutes as amended
Waddell, yes, Urquhart, yes; Burdick, yes, Dellartino, yes; Nern,
yes
Motion carries
D. Planning Commission Special Meeting Minutes of August
20, 2008
Motion by Waddell, second by Urquhart, to approve the
Minutes as written
Waddell, yes; Urquhart, yes; Dellartino, yes; Burdick, yes; Nern,
yes
E. Planning commission Workshop Meeting Minutes of
August 20, 2008
Motion by Waddell, second by Urquhart, to approve the
Minutes as written
Waddell, yes; Urquhart, yes; Burdick, yes; Dellartino, yes; Nern,
yes
Motion carries
4. Agenda Changes/Additions/Deletions
Kilpatrick asked that the letter from Saugatuck Township
RE: Request to Review is added as Item 8.C
…that the Review from Engineer Steve Bishop be included in the
Materials for 8.A as #6
…to add to Written Communications the September 4 letter from
Philip Sheridan as 6.D
…to add a portion of the Draft Minutes of the ZBA Meeting of
8-25-08 as Item 8.B.4
Mulder asked to add Closed Door Session to Discuss Pending Litigation
as item 10
Motion by Urquhart, second by Waddell, to approve the
Agenda as amended in total
Urquhart, yes; Waddell, yes; Dellartino, yes; Burdick, yes; Nern,
yes
Motion carries
5. Hear from the Audience
Robin Bauer, 36 Center Street, said that under agenda
item 7.A it should read Unit # 7 not Unit # 5.
Dana White, Christo’s Roadhouse, said that in
8.A, they now have 34 parking spaces.
6. Written Communication
A. Letter dated August 11, 2008, from Joseph Bredemann
regarding construction of the home located at 3081 Lakeshore Drive.
B. Letter dated August 15, 2008, from Kyle Latshaw
and Loretta Yoder regarding the handling of the Saugatuck Public Schools
matter.
C. Notice of 2008 Influenza Vaccinations at City Hall.
D. Letter dated September 4, 2008 from Philip Sheridan
regarding construction of the home at 3081 Lakeshore Drive.
Kilpatrick said that Mulder has prepared and sent a response, as requested.
It is included in the packet in the Zoning Administrator’s Report.
7. New Business
A. Preliminary Site Plan Review of Special Land Use
request submitted by Robin Bauer, related to Unit # 7 of the People’s
Store located at 36 Center Street. Proposed ground floor residential
unit in the C-1A Village Center Commercial District
Agenda Materials for item 7A Include:
1) Memo from Ryan Kilpatrick dated September 4, 2008:
Staff Level Site Plan Review.
Robin Bauer, 36 Center Street, owner and developer spoke to the Commission.
He indicated that they are not changing the footprint of the building
only wish to change the façade. The intent is to make it a
for-sale studio apartment or a long-term rental. It is the former
garage being converted into a studio. Burdick said that since it does
not meet the minimum square footage the request would need to go before
the ZBA as a hardship application. Kilpatrick said that the ordinance
does not address studio apartments; has the Planning Commission discussed
the use of studio apartments?
Waddell noted that historically, there are commercial
uses for dwellings that were once residential. This use would have
less impact than a commercial use and that is good.
Urquhart said that if you are putting in additional residential, you
will need two additional parking spaces. This would need to fulfill
the duplex clause but there are already three units, this would make
four. Burdick clarified that the second story is part of the front
residence. Urquhart said that the city has one street of commercial
and the plan was to in-fill with commercial. Right now there is not
a big push for that. Waddell said that she would be more concerned
if it were located on Center Street. Burdick wondered about the use
of the space ten years from now if it is not built to commercial standards
now. Kilpatrick responded that any new use would need to come back
to the Planning Commission. Urquhart asked if it could be grandfathered.
Kilpatrick said that the city does not have any different structural
standards in commercial buildings. Burdick noted that the Fire Sprinkler
would be different. Bauer responded that they plan to sprinkle the
whole building and would comply with code on both levels. Kilpatrick
said that Deputy Chief Janek’s original inspection passed. Urquhart
asked if the requirement for water is the same for residential and
commercial. Kilpatrick said that in order to access the water main
for the building they would have to cut through Center Street and
the city does not want that to happen since the street was just improved.
Nern said that we need to be cognizant of the need to provide different
types of housing in the city. Burdick questioned going through the
process only to have someone wishing to use it for commercial in the
near future. Kilpatrick said that depending upon the use, parking
could be a problem. Waddell suggested recommending that this go before
the ZBA. Kilpatrick said that it might be better addressed at the
next Workshop Meeting. Nern said that made sense, to address the appropriateness
of studio apartments. Burdick said that on the blueprint the square-footage
adds up to 675 square feet. Bauer indicated that he is pretty confident
that it is indeed 500 square feet,
Motion by Waddell, second by Dellartino, to table the Preliminary
Site Plan Review of Special Land Use Request submitted by Robin Bauer,
related to Unit #7 of the People’s Store located at 36 Center
Street, proposed ground floor residential unit in the C-1A Village
Center Commercial District indefinitely until a recommendation can
be obtained from Larry Nix concerning Studio Apartments.
Roll Call:
Waddell, yes; Dellartino, yes; Urquhart, yes; Burdick, yes; Nern,
yes
Motion carries
8. Old Business:
A. Consideration of an application for a proposed single-story
restaurant establishment to be located at 2935 Blue Star Highway in
the C-2 District (Property Parcel # 03-5-021-018-78). Site is proposed
to accommodate between 67 and 100 guests and currently includes 25
parking spaces with access from both Blue Star Highway and Enterprise
Drive.
Agenda Materials for Item 8A include-
1) Revised memo from Ryan Kilpatrick, dated August
7, 2008 (revised September 3, 2008): Staff level Site Plan Review.
2) Site Plan submitted by Dana White and Feenstra &
Associates, dated August 20, 2007, last revised August 27, 2008
3) “Additional notes and explanations”,
amended September 1, 2008
Please also see the following information which accompanied
the August 13, 2008 agenda packets
a. Proposed floor plan, dated 9/22/07
b. Proposed elevation sketches, dated 12/10/07
c. Additional notes submitted by Dana White, dated
7/30/08
d. Lighting specifications
Dana White, partner, made the presentation to the Commissioners.
He began by saying that they had made a general statement concerning
the parking; they now show 34 spaces, it should put no more stress
on the infrastructure. There is added landscaping shown, more can
be added if required
Urquhart questioned the lighting. White responded that
they were told they are 15 feet tall. Urquhart asked about the wattage.
White responded that each would be 400 watts but that it could be
less. Herrell added that Bray Electric is doing the lighting. Urquhart
said that if they are each 400 watts that is too much. Kilpatrick
said that wattage can be a part of the requirements in the approval.
Waddell said to keep it in mind but it can be adjusted. Mulder suggested
giving the Zoning Administrator some leeway in this area, there is
also concern about safety issues with lighting. White added that the
developers do not want the area to look like a car dealership.
White continues that they did add a sidewalk to the
plan even though they know that it isn’t part of the ordinance
yet. They would like to keep it for the future. In regard to the Fire
Escape Door: there is an exit out of the kitchen and an exit included
next to the kitchen. Burdick said that he hadn’t seen a review
from the Fire District. Kilpatrick said that they do an initial review
and then any final approval will be part of the occupancy permit.
White said that if another door is needed it is possible to add it
while under construction. Kilpatrick said that any approval should
reflect the lighting to be no more than 15 feet in height with the
wattage contingent upon Zoning Administrator approval. Urquhart and
Waddell attempted a motion for approval that elicited a flurry of
further discussion.
Burdick suggested including a deferred installation
of the sidewalk. Mulder suggested that the minutes be recorded to
reflect a deferred installation so if the property is sold the new
owners know of the sidewalk provision. There should also be a provision
that if the installation is not made within 60 to 90 days the city
has the right to install and specially assess the cost of the installation
of the sidewalk. Burdick said that a 60 to 90 day time-frame could
be a little tight; it should be longer, say six months. Herrell and
Burdick discuss the need for a sidewalk on the property since there
are no others currently to connect to. Waddell said that the sidewalk
is inching its way out. Urquhart noted that sidewalks have not always
been connected but that eventually, they do. Burdick said that those
were within a few hundred feet of another sidewalk. He would like
a provision that the city can demand the sidewalk when it makes sense;
to make it a condition of the approval with legal stipulations. Kilpatrick
noted that there is not currently a provision to require a sidewalk
as part of the site plan approval. The applicant has been generous
in including the sidewalk on the site plan; it would be good of the
Commission to also be generous in allowing the petitioner to wait
until that time when other sidewalks are constructed and to complete
it within a full construction cycle.
Motion by Urquhart, second by Dellartino, to approve
the proposed single-story restaurant establishment to be located at
2935 Blue Star Highway in the C-2 District (Property Parcel # 03-5-021-018-78)
with the conditions that the exterior light posts be no more than
15 feet in height; the wattage of the lighting to be at the Zoning
Administrator’s discretion so as to ensure safe and proper lighting
not to intrude on the neighbors; final fire department review and
approval; that this motion be recorded including the deferred installation
of the future sidewalk to be completed within one full construction
cycle of the request by the city for said installation or that the
city may levy an assessment to cover the cost of the sidewalk improvement.
Roll Call:
Urquhart, yes; Dellartino, yes; Waddell, yes; Burdick, yes; Nern,
yes
Motion carries
B. Consideration of an application for a proposed three-story, mixed-use
building to be located at 11 Water Street in the C-1A District (Property
Parcel # 03-59-100-009-50). Site is proposed to consist of main floor
retail and two dwelling units on the second and third floor with six
off-street parking spaces.
Please refer to the following items distributes with
the August 13, 2008 Agenda Materials:
1. Memo from Ryan Kilpatrick, dated August 7, 2008:
Staff Level Site Plan Review
2. Site Plan revision submitted by Von Der Heide Architects last revised
on July 23, 2008
3. Narrative Statement submitted by Von Der Heide Architexts and dated
June 27, 2008
Bill Sikkle, attorney, represented the developer, Drew
Howitt. He began by saying that the developer had anticipated a negative
ruling and had submitted a revised drawing with the rooftop decks
on the garages instead of the roof of the building. The parapet wall
is only for decoration on the building. The plan addresses concern
about water drainage with the leach basin in excess of the city drainage
recommendations. There is a sidewalk around the perimeter of the building
to allow barrier-free access to the building. The plan adds 15 foot
tall pine trees to add screening.
Sikkle mentioned an e-mail regarding the conflict of interest issue
with Commissioner Waddell.
Mulder clarified that an issue has been made that since Waddell’s
parents own the property next to the building there is a problem.
There are two levels that you look at in a conflict of interest issue;
legally, Michigan law generally describes a monetary detriment to
be made or adversely affected based upon the nature of ownership relationship
or involvement as trustee. Sikkle sited a case out of Connecticut
where a spouse brought s zoning question where the spouse was on the
Planning Commission. Waddell offered to recuse herself.
Motion by Urquhart, second by Dellartino, to allow
Commissioner Waddell to recuse herself from participation and voting
on this issue before the Planning Commission
Roll Call:
Urquhart, yes; Dellartino, yes; Burkhart, yes; Nern, yes
Motion carries
Waddell removed herself to the audience.
Kilpatrick began the discussion by saying that the site
plan submitted by the applicant is in compliance with the ordinance.
The applicant is willing to provide fencing or screening of adjacent
uses. The rooftop decks should also be screened from adjacent properties.
Urquhart said that the intent of the C-1A District is
to have one-story residential above commercial. She states that she
still has a problem with the measurement of the height of the building;
sinking the building is an attempt to circumvent the height requirements
in the ordinance. Urquhart also has a problem with the finishing materials.
There is an understanding that the developer is going for a contemporary
look but the materials make it look like a giant warehouse. Under
our performance criteria it should be clad in a natural material like
wood, stucco, or glass.
Dellartino asked Urquhart where she saw that in C-1A
the intent is two-story. Urquhart said that in 9 and 11, referencing
second story dwelling units and second story apartments with a minimum
square footage of 650 square feet. Urquhart said that she didn’t
think that the building fit the scale of the downtown district. Kilpatrick
said that he didn’t think that the building would be perceived
as three stories because of the actual height above ground. Urquhart
continued that the only time living space is referenced it says living
space on the second story. Dellartino said that we are limited by
height not by story. Mulder continued that in section 6-G any principal
building shall be at least two stories in height. He agrees that there
are some ambiguities but the performance standard anticipates a building
with more than two stories. Urquhart gave some historical perspective
on the original intent; most buildings in the downtown area had peaked
roofs. This section was not rewritten when changes were made. Sikkle
said that the height requirement is enforced; there is nothing that
says that you are limited to two floors. Urquhart said that she saw
the sunken level as a basement, not a ground floor. Sikkle said that
very little of the building was sunken; there are windows on both
sides and back of the building. It just happens that the lot slopes
and we have a portion of the front façade sunk into the ground.
Burdick noted that in the Commercial Record there is a photo of Center
Street that shows one building that is three stories and others with
fake facades to look like they are three-story. He continued to say
that he thinks that the building is pushing the envelope on the residential
area but that it doesn’t violate the historic character of the
downtown. We don’t have a lot of room to define the aesthetics
of the design. Nern added that there have been negative rulings on
Planning Commissions views on aesthetic findings. Mulder said that
in Section H of the Zoning Ordinance there is some degree of discretion
on the use of materials on the exterior but his interpretation of
height limitations are not confined to the treatment of stories; the
language in 6G that talks about at least two stories of height refutes
the idea that you cannot have a three-story building.
Burdick asked about the exterior material. Michael Hurley
showed examples of the material to be used on the exterior. Burdick
questioned the configuration of the material.
Dellartino spoke about how opinions concerning design
are not in the ordinance and that the commission would be treading
on thin ice if we say that the ordinance says a building should only
be two-stories.
Burdick asked if the Fire Department will review after
the Commission review. Kilpatrick said they have done their initial
review and will do a final. Should we address the screening for the
roof-top decks? Sikkle wondered what the commissioners were envisioning.
Kilpatrick responded something as simple as a trellis: just something
that will give a sense of privacy for both the residents and the neighbors.
Motion by Dellartino, second by Burdick, that the planning
Commission approve the Site Plan dated June 26, 2008 for the proposed
three-story, mixed-use building to be located at 11 Water Street in
the C-1A District (Property Parcel # 03-59-100-009-50) conditioned
upon acceptable roof-top decks; fencing along the north wall of the
adjacent property at five feet height; and fire department approval
of the final plan
Roll call:
Dellartino, yes; Burdick, yes; Urquhart, no; Nern, yes
Motion fails for lack of a majority of commission members
Mulder said that the motion can be brought back next
month for reconsideration.
Nern called for a five minute recess at 8:55 PM.
The meeting resumes at 9:04 PM
C. Review of Central Lakeshore Subrea Plan
Dellartino will review and report back to the commissioners
on October 8, 2008
9. Zoning Administrator’s Report
A. Letter from Ryan Kilpatrick, dated August 8, 2008,
to Douglas DeHann, RE: submission of a final storm water management
plan for the home being constructed at 3081 Lakeshore Drive.
Kilpatrick explained that there had been a significant amount of fill
brought in to bring the property up to the adjoining property owner’s
properties. The neighbors requested a stop-work order but nothing
has been violated at this point. Urquhart said that she had been to
the site and there is a definite flooding problem; there is a good
five foot drop to the back of the property, standing water and a rivulet
between properties. Burdick mentioned that this is a high risk area
for erosion; it looks like they built a hill to build their house
on. It would seem to violate the letter and the spirit of our ordinance.
Kilpatrick said that he has walked the site with the city engineer;
historically the site was the lowest in the area. The original house
needed to be razed because it was so filled with mold.
B. Letter from Ryan Kilpatrick, dated August 25, 2008,
to RJ Peterson, regarding the submission of a site plan for Tower
Marine.
C. Letter from Tom King, City Attorney, dated August
25, 2008, to George Bauer, attorney for RJ Peterson, regarding a summary
of details discussed during the August 7, 2008 meeting with Mr. Peterson.
10. Hear from the Audience
RJ Peterson, 116 Riverside, spoke about waterfront property
being something other than private ownership. He will be at UM to
identify what needs to be done to have Harbor facilities in the future.
Someone needs to find a better way to communicate with the Planning
Commission and the City Council. Burdick asked about the authority
to purchase the property. Peterson said it is 20% value to the owner
and 80% to the community; once it’s gone, it’s gone.
Mulder said the city is looking at whether a Harbor Authority makes
sense; there are economic issues that need to be addressed. The committee
needs to look at some recommendations.
Bill Sikkle, attorney, commented on the Bredemann issue
based on Zoning Ordinance 16.20.4 which addresses grading and filling,
county approval. Mulder said that the language was incorrect; the
county does not have authority to regulate. The ordinance is that
fill cannot be brought in above the adjacent property established
grade. Kilpatrick added that he has spent more time on that property
than any other to make sure that all ordinances are being followed.
11. Commissioner Comments
Dellartino: none
Burdick: I feel that we had a good debate; hopefully
we will continue to challenge one another.
Urquhart: none
Waddell: none
Nern: none
12. Closed Door Session
Motion by Urquhart, second by Waddell, to move into
Closed Door Session to discuss pending litigation with the City Attorney
at 9:28 PM
Roll call:
Urquhart, yes; Waddell, yes; Burdick, yes; Dellartino, yes; Nern,
yes
Motion carries
Commissioners return to Regular Meeting at 10:09 PM
12. Adjournment
Motion by Urquhart, second by Dellartino to adjourn
the meeting at 10:10 PM
Motion carries
Respectfully submitted,
Alan McPhail
Recording Secretary